E300 | Building Retention into Your DNA: Matthew Tharp on Churn Signals, ICP & Cold Email


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Hi Reader,

Today on the show, we're joined by Matthew Tharp, CEO of Hunter.io and former VP of Worldwide Retention at LogMeIn, where he owned NRR across nine products and learned what separates companies that solve churn from those that struggle with it forever.

Matthew breaks down why retention must be built into your DNA from day one, how to spot churn signals in the first three weeks, and why the best cold outreach comes from smaller lists and shorter emails—not scale.

Here’s what you’ll take away from this episode:

🧬 Why Fixing Retention Late Almost Always Fails
📊 The 3-Week Usage Pattern That Predicts Churn
🎯 How to Choose Your ICP Based on Market Opportunity
📧 Why Email Lists Under 100 People Get 80%+ Better Replies

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Andrew Michael

Host of Churn FM, the podcast for subscription economy pros to learn how the world's fastest-growing companies are tackling churn and using retention to fuel their growth.

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