E296 | What thousands of A/B tests reveal about websites that convert and retain with Casey Hill


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Hi Reader,

Today on the show we have Casey Hill, CMO of DoWhatWorks, a patented growth experiment tracking engine and former Senior Growth Marketing Manager at ActiveCampaign.

Casey reveals why most A/B tests miss the mark, how to focus on the website elements that actually drive results, and why setting clear expectations is the hidden key to reducing churn.

Here's what you'll gain from this episode:

✅ Why two CTAs often beat one — and when it matters

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🔍 What 1,000s tests say about hero sections, pricing pages, and logo bars

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⚙️ How to avoid low-impact A/B tests & focus where it counts

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🧠 Why aligning expectations boosts conversion & retention

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💬 How DoWhatWorks drives expansion revenue

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