E295 | The Future of SEO in an AI-First world with Kevin Indig


Sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Hi Reader,

Today on the show we have Kevin Indig, Growth Advisor at HyperGrowth Partners and former SEO lead at Shopify and G2.

Kevin shares why 2024 might have been the last golden year of SEO traffic, and how AI is ushering in a new era of high-intent clicks, hyper-targeted content, and trust-based search

Here's what you'll gain from this episode:

✅ Why 2024 was peak traffic, and what replaces it


🔍 How Google’s AI overviews are reshaping search behavior


⚙️ What you must change in your SEO strategy for LLMs


🧠 Why documentation is the unsung hero of AI-driven traffic


💬 How brand, trust, and community are the new SEO moat

Tune in to the full episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform.

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